Both tax measures pass

So who came give us a breakdown on just how much more it will cost everyone with potential job loses due to unfair taxation for businesses and individuals. Government spending is out of control. They are always using the schools. What happened to the 3 years of additional taxes Multnomah County had to pay to save the schools. Government spending is out of control. As the old saying goes with the government if you don't have the money then tax the tax payers more and also the business. SALEM HOW ABOUT YOUR TIGHTENING YOUR BELT A WHOLE LOT MORE AND STOP TAXING THE PEOPLE AND BUSINESS.

I just hope that if/when Nike & Intel and any other large employer leave, they make sure and point out why they're going. Oregon is clearly an anti-business state. Make sure and read Phil Knight's article from the Oregonian last Sunday. http://www.oregonlive.com/opinion/index.ssf/2010/01/nike_chairman_anti-business_cl.html Only a matter of time, Oregon. Well done.

I can’t believe the Oregon voters passed 66 & 67. It will never cease to amaze me how so many uninformed people continue to allow the Government to manipulate them as the excessive waste of funds continue to mount. SO many more jobs will be lost & the price of goods will increase. It’s an elitist bureaucracy built on rewarding waste. Many voters will soon regret allowing themselves to be manipulated by the media while one of the highest taxed states in the country just got much worse. The private sector needs to unite and take a stand against what is fast becoming a socialist society. The truth is that if the government were run more like a business there would be more than enough funds for every important program out there. The more we enable waste the more it will happen. But if the American people ever take a stand there could potentially be reform. The latest I've heard is that Nike & Intel are both seriously considering leaving the state. And why wouldn't they? People just didn't consider all the ramifications of these measures. It's been projected that for every $1.00 these measures bring in $1.50 will be lost due to the high decrease is tax filers and big business leaving. The average annual gross income will be slashed beyond what anyone anticipated and unemployment will be at an unheard of level for any state in this country. The irony is that even the people in government that were trying to be self-serving by manipulating the masses with their lies have finally gone too far and shot themselves in the foot. These measures will have devastating consequences for everyone. The only good out of all this will be that Oregon will be a great example to the rest of the nation for what NOT to do. Maybe other states will learn from this and actually lower taxes rather than continue giving the incompetent more power.

"You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that my dear friend, is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it.”

So now that these have passed, guess there will be alot more people unemployed and living off the state on unemployement and welfare. Oregonians just screwed themselves and the small businesses and those who work for them are going to be the ones paying the price. Hope you all don't mind taking care of me and my family when the small business I work for goes under!

Add this to Obamanation's discussion with Diane Sawyer the other night on ABC. Dianne - "Are you still saying you won't raise taxes on families making less than $250K/year? Is that still the line?" Obamanation - "I will say this, it wouldn't be the best idea to raise taxes in this economy." Not a yes or no answer from him as expected...it wouldn't be the "best idea"...but I've at least left the door open to where I can and not be called on it. He waffled like this during the campaign..."No new taxes for people making less than $250K...no new taxes on those making less than $200K...no new taxes on people making $150K". It's all a bunch of BS.

Is measure 67 not against the constitution since most s-corps and some c-corps profits filter into personal taxes, does this not mean you pay twice. Double taxation. This should go to court and get thrown out?

What even gets me more irate is the fact that Oregon should have a straight tax. If I make 100K and you make 20K and we are both taxed at 30%, you pay only 6K, but I still manage to pay 30K. That is the wealthy already paying for the poort. Unfortunately, the greed is, well let's just tax the upper incomes more. So while you stay at 6K, I get moved to about 48K. When is enough, enough? So since the "upper-class" helps out SOOOO much, what is in store for us? What happens if I become unemployed at 100K a year? I get 496$ a week per month. not even enough to cover mortgage. While people in much lower tax brackets can live off unemployment. Tell me, other than being leeches or goodwill - what benefit do the "viewed as wealthy" get in return for their extra investments over the norm? What do single people get from the government for contributing more from a couple? Why do some of the posts I even see in here act like it is a right to have a selection of people with higher income pay for lower? It's not a right. Is it my fault the money is mismanaged by the state? Why don't you fight that battle instead of putting it on others? Fact is, I worked very hard to where I am today. Forcing me to continually hand out more and more money is not fair. What is the inspiration of trying to do better in life then? Why not just be mediocre in everything you do (which the US is already coming to) .... Doesn't matter to do better at this point, you keep getting bled dry. The upper class is no longer 100-200K a year. The upper class is 300K+ or more. A small business isn't not upper class at 500k-600k a year. It's 1million. It's ok, just like our poor oregon drivers, our stupid love for bikers ... we will continue to make the same mistakes in this state. Don't act like your a political activist and are all for this, but don't support and fight for the root cause problem. Just like the US, your too lazy to do anything, so you just pass the buck.

I will also mention is is borderline unconstitutional to make a vote like this that wouldn't apply to all people. Why not make a law that says, if you make more than 100k a year, you need to forfeit your house to someone making 50k or less a year. Guess what, the voter turnout for that would be great....probably get a 90% pass rate. Granted, my example may be extreme... but how is this much different? "We need money for the schools, lets ask single people making decent money to pay for it ...." Living is all relative. If you make 20k a year or make 200k a year. Your costs are different. The 20k a year is driving a junker. The 200k a year is driving a mercedes. However, the cost to live like that is the same. The 200K guy has more in mortgages. Is it fair to really say, well, since you make more you MUST be able to afford it?

You can try calling this democracy, but that would be BS. I am an employee here in Portland Oregon. I have spent many years working up the food chain to get paid what I am now. Unfortunately, I fall right on the bottom bracket of this, in which I am going to be taxed higher. Being single, I currently have 44% of my check gone when I receive it. This just adds to it. After recieving no raises in 3 years, after taking 10% paycut to keep us all employed, after seeing lower commissions, increased HOA's because of forclosures... I am somehow going to need to find another 3%? No thank you. Why don't I act like the irresponsibile homeowners that got mortgages they couldn't afford. I am still getting by... But the question is WHY DO I need to pay 20% more than those making less? I make more because I worked hard for it... but I have to give more up? I give more up because I make more, I shouldn't be taxed higher. The two points I want to make here are this. 1. This created an impact to businesses in oregon and people making more sizable incomes, which accounts for 10% or less of people in Oregon. How was this not going to pass? 90% of people say great! Better schools, programs, funding and I don't pay a dime! Too good to be true.... How would this ever of been combatted by the top 10%? 2. If we are in such financial crisis, when do we demand accountability? What about the throw away funds? Think it was easy or not costly to make all the new "bike street lanes" in Portland. How about all the funds to trimet, even after getting government funding. Cool, I will just move over the border to washington. Give them my money, because it is far less expensive than staying in Portland.